--- title: The Human Layer Podcast description: "Discover SilverSky: The Human Layer podcast, where we delve into the stories and experiences of the people behind SilverSky, exploring trust and collaboration in cybersecurity." image: https://silversky.com/hubfs/human%20layer%20podcast.jpg --- [Skip to the main content.](https://silversky.com/human-layer-podcast#main-content) [![SilverSky Logo](https://silversky.com/hs-fs/hubfs/SS_LogoHorizontal_Grey_no_Tagline.png?width=588&height=164&name=SS_LogoHorizontal_Grey_no_Tagline.png "SilverSky Logo")](https://silversky.com?hsLang=en) [![SilverSky Logo](https://silversky.com/hs-fs/hubfs/SS_LogoHorizontal_Grey_no_Tagline.png?width=588&height=164&name=SS_LogoHorizontal_Grey_no_Tagline.png "SilverSky Logo")](https://silversky.com?hsLang=en) - [Home](https://silversky.com) - Solutions - [Advisory Services](https://silversky.com/advisory-services) - [MxDR](https://silversky.com/mxdr) - [Managed Security](https://silversky.com/managed-security) - [Managed IT](https://silversky.com/managed-it) - Industries - [Education](https://silversky.com/education) - [Financial Services](https://silversky.com/financial-services) - [Government](https://silversky.com/government) - [Retail](https://silversky.com/retail-services) - [Healthcare](https://silversky.com/healthcare-services) - Resources - [Cybersecurity Maturity Assessment](https://silversky.com/cyber-maturity-assessment) - [News](https://silversky.com/news) - [Silver Lining Blogs](https://silversky.com/silver-linings) - [Executive Perspective Blogs](https://silversky.com/executive-perspective-blog) - [Case Studies](https://silversky.com/case-studies) - [Guides & White Papers](https://silversky.com/guides-white-papers) - [The Human Layer Podcast](https://silversky.com/human-layer-podcast) - Partners - [Become a Partner](https://silversky.com/partners) - [Partner Deal Registration](https://silversky.com/partner-deal-registration) - About SilverSky - [About Us](https://silversky.com/about-silversky) - Login - [Visit Customer Support](https://support.silversky.com/) - [Visit SMC](https://cloud.postoffice.net/auth/login) - [Visit Lightning Portal](https://silversky.outsoc.com/dashboard/) - [Contact Us](https://silversky.com/contact-us) [![Talk to a Security Expert](https://no-cache.hubspot.com/cta/default/21462918/4f0bfeec-cd97-49cf-b9ea-92f207820d0a.png)](https://cta-redirect.hubspot.com/cta/redirect/21462918/4f0bfeec-cd97-49cf-b9ea-92f207820d0a) Toggle Menu Toggle Menu [![Talk to a Security Expert](https://no-cache.hubspot.com/cta/default/21462918/4f0bfeec-cd97-49cf-b9ea-92f207820d0a.png)](https://cta-redirect.hubspot.com/cta/redirect/21462918/4f0bfeec-cd97-49cf-b9ea-92f207820d0a) - [Home](https://silversky.com) - Solutions - [Advisory Services](https://silversky.com/advisory-services) - [MxDR](https://silversky.com/mxdr) - [Managed Security](https://silversky.com/managed-security) - [Managed IT](https://silversky.com/managed-it) - Industries - [Education](https://silversky.com/education) - [Financial Services](https://silversky.com/financial-services) - [Government](https://silversky.com/government) - [Retail](https://silversky.com/retail-services) - [Healthcare](https://silversky.com/healthcare-services) - Resources - [Cybersecurity Maturity Assessment](https://silversky.com/cyber-maturity-assessment) - [News](https://silversky.com/news) - [Silver Lining Blogs](https://silversky.com/silver-linings) - [Executive Perspective Blogs](https://silversky.com/executive-perspective-blog) - [Case Studies](https://silversky.com/case-studies) - [Guides & White Papers](https://silversky.com/guides-white-papers) - [The Human Layer Podcast](https://silversky.com/human-layer-podcast) - Partners - [Become a Partner](https://silversky.com/partners) - [Partner Deal Registration](https://silversky.com/partner-deal-registration) - About SilverSky - [About Us](https://silversky.com/about-silversky) - Login - [Visit Customer Support](https://support.silversky.com/) - [Visit SMC](https://cloud.postoffice.net/auth/login) - [Visit Lightning Portal](https://silversky.outsoc.com/dashboard/) - [Contact Us](https://silversky.com/contact-us) [Linkedin](https://www.linkedin.com/company/silversky/) [YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/user/SilverSkyvideos) ![Human Layer Podcast](https://silversky.com/hs-fs/hubfs/Human%20Layer%20Podcast.png?width=1920&height=942&name=Human%20Layer%20Podcast.png) ###### SILVERSKY PODCAST ## Cybersecurity is built on trust. Trust starts with people. SilverSky: The Human Layer gives customers, partners, employees, and our broader community a closer look at the people behind SilverSky. [Spotify](https://open.spotify.com/show/033N8IdEBFtRu5f0wXJJEf?si=fc0fe93bb41642d7) [Apple Podcasts](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/silversky-the-human-layer/id6789637507) [YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/@SilverSkyvideos) [Amazon Music](https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/3b9ad42c-a6fd-4055-846d-efceb041a239/silversky-the-human-layer) [iHeartRadio](https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-silversky-the-human-layer-338589914/) About the Series ## A people-first look at the individuals behind SilverSky. Each episode features candid conversations with SilverSky team members, leaders, partners, and customers about career paths, experiences, lessons learned, and the relationships that shape the work we do every day. This is not a technical briefing or a sales conversation. It is a people-first series about the individuals, perspectives, and values behind a long-standing cybersecurity partner. Why Listen Meet the people behind the partnership. Latest Episode ## Episode 06: Featuring Jan Masters Bruce Wirt sits down with Jan Masters, Head of Penetration Testing at SilverSky, for a conversation about the hacker mindset, the attack paths hiding inside everyday technology, and why experienced humans still matter when security testing becomes increasingly automated. ![Jan Masters, Head of Penetration Testing, on SilverSky: The Human Layer Podcast](https://silversky.com/hs-fs/hubfs/Human%20Layer%20Podcast/Human%20Layer%20Podcast_Head%20of%20Penetration%20Testing.jpg?width=554&height=554&name=Human%20Layer%20Podcast_Head%20of%20Penetration%20Testing.jpg) Now Available ### Security looks different one layer deeper. In Episode 6 of SilverSky: The Human Layer, Jan takes us inside the mindset of an ethical hacker. From printers and smart devices to mobile applications and AI, the conversation explores how ordinary technology can create unexpected paths into an environment, what penetration testers look for that others may miss, and why effective testing still depends on human experience, judgment, and curiosity. “There needs to be a human in the loop that can provide experience, knowledge, wisdom.” [Spotify](https://open.spotify.com/episode/72zvdiXP4QyXVSdxnljmrB?si=3914197df3da4fbd) [Apple](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-human-layer-episode-6-jan-masters-inside-the/id6789637507?i=1000796708947) [YouTube](https://youtu.be/jIxgmIa1Cwg?si=TywQFZzZn-5NtHyg) [Amazon Music](https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/3b9ad42c-a6fd-4055-846d-efceb041a239/episodes/b1354ba7-882b-4d44-9fcd-1a6bf60e650f/silversky-the-human-layer-the-human-layer-episode-6-jan-masters-inside-the-mind-of-an-ethical-hacker) [iHeartRadio](https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-silversky-the-human-layer-338589914/episode/the-human-layer-episode-6-jan-masters-inside-the-mind-of-an-ethical-hacker-347788923) Inside the Episode What the hacker mindset really means Finding vulnerabilities before someone else does The hidden attack paths inside everyday technology Balancing security, usability, and availability Why human-led testing still matters in the age of AI Follow the Show ## Subscribe wherever you listen. 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